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Exhibit A: We all know that in a fair justice system, everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but, just as a matter of speculation, what if the accused are 100% guilty of a crime? Is it “justice” that allows their defense lawyers to find “reasonable doubt” after seven year’s delay? Or to find minute technical differences in evidence in an attempt to discredit witnesses? Seems to me that in these instances, the REAL criminals and what REALLY happened are not on trial - the procedures are.
Perhaps there is room for doubt: is a conviction of 99%, 96% or 85% guilty going to help the REAL victims in a trial? Where is the “Defense” counsel for murdered victims - do we need another counsel group that is allowed to speak for the defense-less (i.e. Counsel C) to clarify technical issues related to what is initially deemed as “inadmissible evidence”?
How can a society progress when it allows gang members to make a mockery of justice? And what is “justice” to a drug dealer / enforcer? Why is it that they have absolutely no respect for law when they commit their crimes, yet fully use and abuse law when it serves their purposes in criminal proceedings? Or is such a trial necessary so that next time they get better at avoiding getting caught for their actions, or finding a better defense lawyer (or heaven forbid, even more defense lawyers) to uncover more unconsequential loopholes? But I digress, since, thank goodness I am not a lawyer, and...
Disclaimer: Note that all people, places and events mentioned above (Exhibit A), and all the above rambling comments above (Exhibit A) are not related to, nor have anything to do with the “Surrey Six Trial” (Exhibit B) which is coincidentally taking place in Vancouver, B.C., starting on September 30, 2013, six years after the original slayings occurred on October 19, 2007 at the Balmoral Tower in Surrey, B.C.
Exhibit B: In this “Surrey Six Trial”, three gangsters are accused in one of the most heinous murders in B.C. history: Matthew Johnston, Cory Haevischer and Quang Vinh Thang (Michael) Le. Together, with Dennis Karbovanec (who pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in 2009) and Jamie Bacon, they are accused of killing Edward Narong, Corey Lal, Michael Lal, Ryan Bartolomeo in a gang-related slaying. Ed Schellenberg and Chris Mohan were also killed as innocent bystanders.
May justice prevail for all of the accused, and if they are not guilty (as they all pled), my sympathy goes out to them. However, if they are guilty (in whole or part), may REAL justice be dealt in this case... but of course, in a legal sense - not in the style that they themselves have become accustomed to...
I wonder what Ed Schellenberg and Chris Mohan would think, looking down at these proceedings...
Quote from CBC’s Royal Canadian Air Farce, “... but I’m not bitter!”
by Joe Defries, brother-in-law of Ed Schellenberg
Vancouver Sun Update on 2 December 2017: “Bombshell Jamie Bacon ruling breaks hearts of murder victims’ families. The families of the two bystanders killed in the Surrey Six drug murders a decade ago have been left disgusted and broken-hearted after the B.C. Supreme Court threw out charges against Jamie Bacon, the man accused of being the mastermind behind the slaughter.
Steve Brown, who lost his brother-in-law Ed Schellenberg, said Saturday that he felt numb when he heard news of the court’s ruling. He said that he is too ‘worn out’ to be angry.
‘There is no trust left. People are just disgusted. They are just disgusted with the whole thing,’ Brown said.”
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see also
Legal Section
Justice Is Blind - Part 2
Gun Laws
Legal Assistance For All
Memorial Service for Ed Schellenberg
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