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Exhibit A: We all know that in a fair justice system, everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but, just as a matter of speculation, what if the accused are 100% guilty of a crime? Is it “justice” that allows their defense lawyers to find “reasonable doubt” after seven year’s delay? Or to find minute technical differences in evidence in an attempt to discredit witnesses? Seems to me that in these instances, the REAL criminals and what REALLY happened are not on trial - the procedures are.
Perhaps there is room for doubt: is a conviction of 99%, 96% or 85% guilty going to help the REAL victims in a trial? Where is the “Defense” counsel for murdered victims - do we need another counsel group that is allowed to speak for the defense-less (i.e. Counsel C) to clarify technical issues related to what is initially deemed as “inadmissible evidence”?
How can a society progress when it allows gang members to make a mockery of justice? And what is “justice” to a drug dealer / enforcer? Why is it that they have absolutely no respect for law when they commit their crimes, yet fully use and abuse law when it serves their purposes in criminal proceedings? Or is such a trial necessary so that next time they get better at avoiding getting caught for their actions, or finding a better defense lawyer (or heaven forbid, even more defense lawyers) to uncover more unconsequential loopholes? But I digress, since, thank goodness I am not a lawyer, and...
Disclaimer: Note that all people, places and events mentioned above (Exhibit A), and all the above rambling comments above (Exhibit A) are not related to, nor have anything to do with the “Surrey Six Trial” (Exhibit B) which is coincidentally taking place in Vancouver, B.C., starting on September 30, 2013, six years after the original slayings occurred on October 19, 2007 at the Balmoral Tower in Surrey, B.C.
Exhibit B: In this “Surrey Six Trial”, three gangsters are accused in one of the most heinous murders in B.C. history: Matthew Johnston, Cory Haevischer and Quang Vinh Thang (Michael) Le. Together, with Dennis Karbovanec (who pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in 2009) and Jamie Bacon, they are accused of killing Edward Narong, Corey Lal, Michael Lal, Ryan Bartolomeo in a gang-related slaying. Ed Schellenberg and Chris Mohan were also killed as innocent bystanders.
May justice prevail for all of the accused, and if they are not guilty (as they all pled), my sympathy goes out to them. However, if they are guilty (in whole or part), may REAL justice be dealt in this case... but of course, in a legal sense - not in the style that they themselves have become accustomed to...
I wonder what Ed Schellenberg and Chris Mohan would think, looking down at these proceedings...
Quote from CBC’s Royal Canadian Air Farce, “... but I’m not bitter!”
by Joe Defries, brother-in-law of Ed Schellenberg
Vancouver Sun Update on 2 December 2017: “Bombshell Jamie Bacon ruling breaks hearts of murder victims’ families. The families of the two bystanders killed in the Surrey Six drug murders a decade ago have been left disgusted and broken-hearted after the B.C. Supreme Court threw out charges against Jamie Bacon, the man accused of being the mastermind behind the slaughter.
Steve Brown, who lost his brother-in-law Ed Schellenberg, said Saturday that he felt numb when he heard news of the court’s ruling. He said that he is too ‘worn out’ to be angry.
‘There is no trust left. People are just disgusted. They are just disgusted with the whole thing,’ Brown said.”
“The trouble with law is lawyers.” - Clarence Darrow
QuotaBillsThe trouble with law is lawyers. - Clarence Darrow
Lawyers are natural politicians. - Clarence Darrow
Don't judge a cat by its coat. - Magdalena VandenBerg
Generosity is the flower of justice. - Nathaniel Hawthorne
OK, if you can get an indepartial judge. - Archie Bunker
The good of the people is the chief law. - Cicero
We judge of man's wisdom by his hope. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
There's a strong criminal relement up there. - Archie Bunker
Mother-In-Law Sandwich: Cold shoulder and tongue - Daffynitions joe-ks.com
Lawyers are men who hire out their words and anger. - Robert Christy
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. - Martin Luther King Jr.
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. - William Shakespeare
Lawyers are in the business of advocacy, not judgment. - Allan C Hutchinson
A town that cannot support one lawyer can always support two. - Lyndon Baines Johnson
Adam was the luckiest man in the world - he had no mother-in-law. - Sholom Aleichem
Sometimes the strength of motherhood is greater than natural laws. - Barbara Kingsolver
Lawsuit: a machine you go into as a pig and come out of as a sausage. - Ambrose Bierce
So I will say it with relish. Give me a hamburger but hold the lawsuit. - S.I. Hayakawa
Justice without force is powerless; force without justice is tyrannical. - Blaise Pascal
All the honesty in the world ain't legal tender for a loaf of bread. - Josh Billings
The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law. - Aristotle
Marriage is really tough because you have to deal with feelings and lawyers. - Richard Pryor
It's every lawyer's dream to help shape the law, not just react to it. - Alan Dershowitz
I know that this defies the law of gravity, but, you see, I never studied law. - Bugs Bunny
True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of justice. - Martin Luther King, Jr.
Guarantee: A legal vehicle which expires on the same day as your mechanical one - Daffynitions joe-ks.com
Lawyers generally know too much of law to have a very clear perception of justice. - Eliza Cook
The four absolutes we all have in our minds: love, justice, evil, and forgiveness. - Ravi Zacharias
My mother-in-law has so many wrinkles, when she smiles she looks like a Venetian blind. - Les Dawson
To make laws that man cannot, and will not obey, serves to bring all law into contempt. - Elizabeth C Stanton
Law: an ordinance of reason for the common good, made by him who has care of the community. - Thomas Aquinas
Grammar, which knows how to lord it over kings, and with high hands makes them obey its laws. - Moliere
The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges. - Anatole France
The law was made for one thing alone - for the exploitation of those who don't understand it. - Bertoit Brecht
Shakespeare said pretty well everything and what he left out, James Joyce, with a judge from meself, put in. - Brendan Behan
There is not Communism or Marxism, but representative democracy and social justice in a well-planned economy. - Fidel Castro
There's a lot of fake people in the world, but before you judge them, make sure you're not one of them. - Unknown
People judge you by your actions, not your intentions. You may have a heart of gold, but so has a hard-boiled egg. - Unknown
I don't know as I want a lawyer to tell me what I cannot do. I hire him to tell me how to do what I want to do. - J P Morgan
The minute you read something that you can't understand, you can almost be sure that it was drawn up by a lawyer. - Will Rogers
No oppression is so heavy or lasting as that which is inflicted by the perversion and exorbitance of legal authority. - Joseph Addison
When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you, you know your nation is doomed. - Ayn Rand
Plant seeds of happiness, hope, success, and love; it will all come back to you in abundance. This is the law of nature. - Steve Maraboli
My other brother-in-law died. He was a karate expert, then joined the army. The first time he saluted, he killed himself. - Henny Youngman
Man's capacity for justice makes democracy possible, but man's inclination to injustice makes democracy necessary. - Reinhold Niebuhr
When you go into court you are putting your fate into the hands of twelve people who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty. - Norm Crosby
Musical innovation is full of danger to the State, for when modes of music change, the fundamental laws of the State always change with them. - Plato
Never utter these words: 'I do not know this, therefore it is false.' One must study to know; know to understand; understand to judge. - Apothegm of Narda
Lawyers are doubters, skeptics; not in a bad sense. But they never know any thing absolutely and utterly without qualifications or modifications. - G N Tillman
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see also
Legal Section
Justice Is Blind - Part 2
Gun Laws
Legal Assistance For All
Memorial Service for Ed Schellenberg
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