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Exhibit A: We all know that in a fair justice system, everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but, just as a matter of speculation, what if the accused are 100% guilty of a crime? Is it “justice” that allows their defense lawyers to find “reasonable doubt” after seven year’s delay? Or to find minute technical differences in evidence in an attempt to discredit witnesses? Seems to me that in these instances, the REAL criminals and what REALLY happened are not on trial - the procedures are.
Perhaps there is room for doubt: is a conviction of 99%, 96% or 85% guilty going to help the REAL victims in a trial? Where is the “Defense” counsel for murdered victims - do we need another counsel group that is allowed to speak for the defense-less (i.e. Counsel C) to clarify technical issues related to what is initially deemed as “inadmissible evidence”?
How can a society progress when it allows gang members to make a mockery of justice? And what is “justice” to a drug dealer / enforcer? Why is it that they have absolutely no respect for law when they commit their crimes, yet fully use and abuse law when it serves their purposes in criminal proceedings? Or is such a trial necessary so that next time they get better at avoiding getting caught for their actions, or finding a better defense lawyer (or heaven forbid, even more defense lawyers) to uncover more unconsequential loopholes? But I digress, since, thank goodness I am not a lawyer, and...
Disclaimer: Note that all people, places and events mentioned above (Exhibit A), and all the above rambling comments above (Exhibit A) are not related to, nor have anything to do with the “Surrey Six Trial” (Exhibit B) which is coincidentally taking place in Vancouver, B.C., starting on September 30, 2013, six years after the original slayings occurred on October 19, 2007 at the Balmoral Tower in Surrey, B.C.
Exhibit B: In this “Surrey Six Trial”, three gangsters are accused in one of the most heinous murders in B.C. history: Matthew Johnston, Cory Haevischer and Quang Vinh Thang (Michael) Le. Together, with Dennis Karbovanec (who pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in 2009) and Jamie Bacon, they are accused of killing Edward Narong, Corey Lal, Michael Lal, Ryan Bartolomeo in a gang-related slaying. Ed Schellenberg and Chris Mohan were also killed as innocent bystanders.
May justice prevail for all of the accused, and if they are not guilty (as they all pled), my sympathy goes out to them. However, if they are guilty (in whole or part), may REAL justice be dealt in this case... but of course, in a legal sense - not in the style that they themselves have become accustomed to...
I wonder what Ed Schellenberg and Chris Mohan would think, looking down at these proceedings...
Quote from CBC’s Royal Canadian Air Farce, “... but I’m not bitter!”
by Joe Defries, brother-in-law of Ed Schellenberg
Vancouver Sun Update on 2 December 2017: “Bombshell Jamie Bacon ruling breaks hearts of murder victims’ families. The families of the two bystanders killed in the Surrey Six drug murders a decade ago have been left disgusted and broken-hearted after the B.C. Supreme Court threw out charges against Jamie Bacon, the man accused of being the mastermind behind the slaughter.
Steve Brown, who lost his brother-in-law Ed Schellenberg, said Saturday that he felt numb when he heard news of the court’s ruling. He said that he is too ‘worn out’ to be angry.
‘There is no trust left. People are just disgusted. They are just disgusted with the whole thing,’ Brown said.”
“The trouble with law is lawyers.” - Clarence Darrow
QuotaBillsNecessity hath no law. - Oliver Cromwell
The law is silent during war. - Cicero
Justice delayed is justice denied. - William Gladstone
Lawsuits: Clothes worn by an attorney - Daffynitions joe-ks.com
Justice is incidental to law and order. - J Edgar Hoover
We judge of man's wisdom by his hope. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Lawyers are guardians of the legal order. - Philip Wood
He is no lawyer who cannot take two sides. - Charles Lamb
Swift justice demands more than just swiftness. - Potter Stewart
It is not wisdom but authority that makes a law. - Thomas Hobbes
We are never to judge a philosophy by its abuse. - Augustine
Writing laws is easy, but governing is difficult. - Leo Tolstoy
The law must be stable, but it must not stand still. - Roscoe Pound
I have always fought for concrete facts, for justice. - Fidel Castro
Whoever called it necking was a poor judge of anatomy. - Groucho Marx
Laws, like spider webs, catch flies and let hawks go free. - Spanish Proverb
I can have peace of mind only when I forgive rather than judge. - Gerald Jampolsky
Corn can't expect justice from a court composed of chickens. - African Proverb
How many lawyer jokes are there? One, the rest are true stories. - Thomas F Shubnell
Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it. - Dalai Lama
When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself. - Wayne W. Dyer
Books should be tried by a judge and jury as though they were crimes. - Samuel Butler
The laws of probability - so true in general, so fallacious in particular. - Edward Gibbon
I'm not upset about my divorce. I'm only upset I'm not a widow. - Roseanne Barr
Ignorance, allied with power, is the most ferocious enemy justice can have. - James Baldwin
Tennis is like a lawsuit: activity from across the court is often surprising. - Unknown
You cannot live without the lawyers, and certainly you cannot die without them. - Joseph H Choate
Time is money, especially when you're talking to a lawyer or an accountant. - Joe-kster
Lawyers are like rhinoceroses: thick skinned, short-sighted, and always ready to charge. - David Mellor
What right does Congress have to go around making laws just because they deem it necessary? - Marion Barry
If the laws could speak for themselves, they would complain of the lawyers in the first place. - George Savile
A mother's love for her child is like nothing else in the world. It knows no law, no pity. - Agatha Christie
At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice he is the worst. - Aristotle
Why don't you ever hear of a lawyer getting attacked by a shark at the beach? Professional courtesy. - Thomas F Shubnell
In a litigation-happy society, clear agreements often prevent small disagreements form becoming big ones. - Harvey Mackay
I wanted to do something nice so I bought my mother-in-law a chair. Now they won't let me plug it in. - Henny Youngman
Shakespeare said pretty well everything and what he left out, James Joyce, with a judge from meself, put in. - Brendan Behan
Children begin by loving their parents; after a time they judge them; rarely, if ever, do they forgive them. - Oscar Wilde
I have a huge interest in hockey because I grew up in Canada, where it's kind of the law that you love hockey. - Matthew Perry
This hour we are stretching forth our hands with the desire to teach the world the true principles of mercy and justice. - Marcus Garvey
Plant seeds of happiness, hope, success, and love; it will all come back to you in abundance. This is the law of nature. - Steve Maraboli
Now we got a lawyer, we got civilization, which I understand to mean that a man has a chance to get rich without working. - Sinclair Lewis
If we judge ourselves only by our aspirations and everyone else only their conduct we shall soon reach a very false conclusion. - Calvin Coolidge
Anyone who takes it on himself, on his own authority, to break a bad law, thereby authorizes everyone else to break the good ones. - Denis Diderot
Once in your life you need a doctor, a lawyer, a policeman, and a preacher... but every day, three times a day, you need a farmer. - Brenda Schaepp
A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people. - John F Kennedy
Judge: 1. A law student who marks his own examination papers; 2. A lawyer who once knew a politician; 3. A man in a trying position. - Daffynitions joe-ks.com
Bakinmyday: A law passed in the early 1900s that made it mandatory to build all schools at least 15 miles from all future grandfathers - Daffynitions joe-ks.com
The Law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich, as well as the poor, to sleep under the bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. - Anatole France
Lawyers are like unrequited lovers: you give them an inch, and they go for the whole nine yards; you take off one shoe, and they pull down your pants. - Andres Rueda
see also
Legal Section
Justice Is Blind - Part 2
Gun Laws
Legal Assistance For All
Memorial Service for Ed Schellenberg
Surrey Six Trial - Word Search Puzzle
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