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Exhibit A: We all know that in a fair justice system, everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but, just as a matter of speculation, what if the accused are 100% guilty of a crime? Is it “justice” that allows their defense lawyers to find “reasonable doubt” after seven year’s delay? Or to find minute technical differences in evidence in an attempt to discredit witnesses? Seems to me that in these instances, the REAL criminals and what REALLY happened are not on trial - the procedures are.
Perhaps there is room for doubt: is a conviction of 99%, 96% or 85% guilty going to help the REAL victims in a trial? Where is the “Defense” counsel for murdered victims - do we need another counsel group that is allowed to speak for the defense-less (i.e. Counsel C) to clarify technical issues related to what is initially deemed as “inadmissible evidence”?
How can a society progress when it allows gang members to make a mockery of justice? And what is “justice” to a drug dealer / enforcer? Why is it that they have absolutely no respect for law when they commit their crimes, yet fully use and abuse law when it serves their purposes in criminal proceedings? Or is such a trial necessary so that next time they get better at avoiding getting caught for their actions, or finding a better defense lawyer (or heaven forbid, even more defense lawyers) to uncover more unconsequential loopholes? But I digress, since, thank goodness I am not a lawyer, and...
Disclaimer: Note that all people, places and events mentioned above (Exhibit A), and all the above rambling comments above (Exhibit A) are not related to, nor have anything to do with the “Surrey Six Trial” (Exhibit B) which is coincidentally taking place in Vancouver, B.C., starting on September 30, 2013, six years after the original slayings occurred on October 19, 2007 at the Balmoral Tower in Surrey, B.C.
Exhibit B: In this “Surrey Six Trial”, three gangsters are accused in one of the most heinous murders in B.C. history: Matthew Johnston, Cory Haevischer and Quang Vinh Thang (Michael) Le. Together, with Dennis Karbovanec (who pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in 2009) and Jamie Bacon, they are accused of killing Edward Narong, Corey Lal, Michael Lal, Ryan Bartolomeo in a gang-related slaying. Ed Schellenberg and Chris Mohan were also killed as innocent bystanders.
May justice prevail for all of the accused, and if they are not guilty (as they all pled), my sympathy goes out to them. However, if they are guilty (in whole or part), may REAL justice be dealt in this case... but of course, in a legal sense - not in the style that they themselves have become accustomed to...
I wonder what Ed Schellenberg and Chris Mohan would think, looking down at these proceedings...
Quote from CBC’s Royal Canadian Air Farce, “... but I’m not bitter!”
by Joe Defries, brother-in-law of Ed Schellenberg
Vancouver Sun Update on 2 December 2017: “Bombshell Jamie Bacon ruling breaks hearts of murder victims’ families. The families of the two bystanders killed in the Surrey Six drug murders a decade ago have been left disgusted and broken-hearted after the B.C. Supreme Court threw out charges against Jamie Bacon, the man accused of being the mastermind behind the slaughter.
Steve Brown, who lost his brother-in-law Ed Schellenberg, said Saturday that he felt numb when he heard news of the court’s ruling. He said that he is too ‘worn out’ to be angry.
‘There is no trust left. People are just disgusted. They are just disgusted with the whole thing,’ Brown said.”
“The trouble with law is lawyers.” - Clarence Darrow
QuotaBillsThe law is silent during war. - Cicero
Order is Heaven's first law. - Alexander Pope
I don't want tea, I want justice! - Ally Carter
A bad compromise beats a good lawsuit. - Saying
99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name. - Steven Wright
We judge of man's wisdom by his hope. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Lawyers are guardians of the legal order. - Philip Wood
If you want peace, you must work for justice. - Pope Paul VI
It is not wisdom but authority that makes a law. - Thomas Hobbes
Lawyers believe a man is innocent until proven broke. - Robin Hall
It's every man's business to see justice done. - Arthur Conan Doyle
It is an ill cause that the lawyer thinks shame o'. - John Ray
Law of Inflation: Whatever goes up will go up some more. - Kin Hubbard
Ambition is like hunger; it obeys no law but its appetite. - H.W. Shaw
You shall judge a man by his foes as well as by his friends. - Joseph Conrad
Don't judge me by my past. I don't live there anymore. - Unknown
A judge is a law student who marks his own examination papers. - H L Mencken
The sad duty of politics is to establish justice in a sinful world. - Reinhold Niebuhr
You can not stop the spread of an idea by passing a law against it. - Harry S Truman
Lawsuit: a machine you go into as a pig and come out of as a sausage. - Ambrose Bierce
The wisest man is the silent one. Examine his actions. Judge him by them. - Karen M Moning
Law school is the opposite of sex. Even when it's good it's lousy. - Unknown
It took me a long time not to judge myself through someone else's eyes. - Sally Field
I just got back from a pleasure trip. I took my mother-in-law to the airport. - Henny Youngman
Litigation: A machine which you go into as a pig and come out of as a sausage. - Ambrose Bierce
A lawyer will do anything to win a case, sometimes he will even tell the truth. - Patrick Murray
Time is money, especially when you're talking to a lawyer or an accountant. - Joe-kster
Your mother's down there throwing a monkey wrench into the halls of justice. - Archie Bunker
Under the English legal system you are innocent until you are shown to be Irish. - Ted Whitehead
Lawyers are like rhinoceroses: thick skinned, short-sighted, and always ready to charge. - David Mellor
Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet. - Mark Twain
Grammar, which knows how to lord it over kings, and with high hands makes them obey its laws. - Moliere
Do not judge me by my successes, judge me by how many times I fell down and got back up again. - Nelson Mandela
If the laws could speak for themselves, they would complain of the lawyers in the first place. - George Savile
At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice he is the worst. - Aristotle
Lawyers are the only civil delinquents whose judges must of necessity be chosen from themselves. - Charles C Colton
I don't want a lawyer to tell me what I cannot do. I hire one to tell me how to do what I want to do. - J P Morgan
I wanted to do something nice so I bought my mother-in-law a chair. Now they won't let me plug it in. - Henny Youngman
Do not mind anything that anyone tells you about anyone else. Judge everyone and everything for yourself. - Henry James
There's a lot of fake people in the world, but before you judge them, make sure you're not one of them. - Unknown
A lawyer's duty is to read the law well himself, then tell the people what it is, and let them act upon it. - Brigham Young
There are not enough jails, not enough policemen, not enough courts to enforce a law not supported by the people. - Hubert H Humphrey
If you want to kill an idea without being identified as the assassin, suggest that the legal department take a look at it. - Scott Adams
A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people. - John F Kennedy
Justice, sir, is the great interest of man on earth. It is the ligament which holds civilized beings and civilized nations together. - Daniel Webster
Man has made 32 million laws since the Commandments were handed down to Moses on Mount Sinai... but he has never improved on God's law. - Cecil B. DeMille
Never utter these words: 'I do not know this, therefore it is false.' One must study to know; know to understand; understand to judge. - Apothegm of Narda
Most people ask questions because they want to know the answer; lawyers are trained never to ask questions unless they already know the answer. - Lani Guinier
Lawyers have the singular distinction of being able to play the hero and villain at the same time. Depending on where you stand in a courthouse. - Lenox Mhlanga
There must be some honest lawyers at the New York bar, and some impartial judges on the New York bench, but I should not like to be set to find them. - Lyman Abbott
see also
Legal Section
Justice Is Blind - Part 2
Gun Laws
Legal Assistance For All
Memorial Service for Ed Schellenberg
Surrey Six Trial - Word Search Puzzle
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