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Exhibit A: We all know that in a fair justice system, everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but, just as a matter of speculation, what if the accused are 100% guilty of a crime? Is it “justice” that allows their defense lawyers to find “reasonable doubt” after seven year’s delay? Or to find minute technical differences in evidence in an attempt to discredit witnesses? Seems to me that in these instances, the REAL criminals and what REALLY happened are not on trial - the procedures are.
Perhaps there is room for doubt: is a conviction of 99%, 96% or 85% guilty going to help the REAL victims in a trial? Where is the “Defense” counsel for murdered victims - do we need another counsel group that is allowed to speak for the defense-less (i.e. Counsel C) to clarify technical issues related to what is initially deemed as “inadmissible evidence”?
How can a society progress when it allows gang members to make a mockery of justice? And what is “justice” to a drug dealer / enforcer? Why is it that they have absolutely no respect for law when they commit their crimes, yet fully use and abuse law when it serves their purposes in criminal proceedings? Or is such a trial necessary so that next time they get better at avoiding getting caught for their actions, or finding a better defense lawyer (or heaven forbid, even more defense lawyers) to uncover more unconsequential loopholes? But I digress, since, thank goodness I am not a lawyer, and...
Disclaimer: Note that all people, places and events mentioned above (Exhibit A), and all the above rambling comments above (Exhibit A) are not related to, nor have anything to do with the “Surrey Six Trial” (Exhibit B) which is coincidentally taking place in Vancouver, B.C., starting on September 30, 2013, six years after the original slayings occurred on October 19, 2007 at the Balmoral Tower in Surrey, B.C.
Exhibit B: In this “Surrey Six Trial”, three gangsters are accused in one of the most heinous murders in B.C. history: Matthew Johnston, Cory Haevischer and Quang Vinh Thang (Michael) Le. Together, with Dennis Karbovanec (who pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in 2009) and Jamie Bacon, they are accused of killing Edward Narong, Corey Lal, Michael Lal, Ryan Bartolomeo in a gang-related slaying. Ed Schellenberg and Chris Mohan were also killed as innocent bystanders.
May justice prevail for all of the accused, and if they are not guilty (as they all pled), my sympathy goes out to them. However, if they are guilty (in whole or part), may REAL justice be dealt in this case... but of course, in a legal sense - not in the style that they themselves have become accustomed to...
I wonder what Ed Schellenberg and Chris Mohan would think, looking down at these proceedings...
Quote from CBC’s Royal Canadian Air Farce, “... but I’m not bitter!”
by Joe Defries, brother-in-law of Ed Schellenberg
Vancouver Sun Update on 2 December 2017: “Bombshell Jamie Bacon ruling breaks hearts of murder victims’ families. The families of the two bystanders killed in the Surrey Six drug murders a decade ago have been left disgusted and broken-hearted after the B.C. Supreme Court threw out charges against Jamie Bacon, the man accused of being the mastermind behind the slaughter.
Steve Brown, who lost his brother-in-law Ed Schellenberg, said Saturday that he felt numb when he heard news of the court’s ruling. He said that he is too ‘worn out’ to be angry.
‘There is no trust left. People are just disgusted. They are just disgusted with the whole thing,’ Brown said.”
“The trouble with law is lawyers.” - Clarence Darrow
QuotaBillsThe law is silent during war. - Cicero
Lawyers are merchants of misery. - Nancy Levit
Whenever law ends, tyranny begins. - John Locke
Useless laws weaken necessary laws. - Charles de Secondat
Lawyers, I suppose, were children once. - Charles Lamb
Justice is incidental to law and order. - J Edgar Hoover
99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name. - Steven Wright
Do you not know that I am above the law? - James II
We judge of man's wisdom by his hope. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Lawyers are seldom loved but often needed. - Robert B McKay
The police are recruited from the criminal classes. - Gore Vidal
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. - William Shakespeare
Stop soft soapin' and trying to deterge the judge! - Archie Bunker
Incongruous: Where our laws are made and how they appear - Daffynitions joe-ks.com
The power of the lawyer is in the uncertainty of the law. - Jeremy Bentham
Sudafed: Brought litigation against a government official - Daffynitions joe-ks.com
It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances. - Oscar Wilde
In the Halls of Justice, the only justice is in the halls. - Lenny Bruce
Behind every successful man stands a surprised mother-in-law. - Hubert Humphrey
Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it. - Dalai Lama
The husbands of very beautiful women belong to the criminal classes. - Oscar Wilde
Lawsuit: a machine you go into as a pig and come out of as a sausage. - Ambrose Bierce
Justice without force is powerless; force without justice is tyrannical. - Blaise Pascal
Layers are the only persons in whom ignorance of the law is not punished. - Jeremy Bentham
The wisest man is the silent one. Examine his actions. Judge him by them. - Karen M Moning
The laws of probability - so true in general, so fallacious in particular. - Edward Gibbon
The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law. - Aristotle
The Second Law of Pies: they must be baked, not fried (or boiled, or steamed). - Janet Clarkson
Washington, D.C.: Where the criminals cover their crimes by making them legal. - Frank Dane
Guarantee: A legal vehicle which expires on the same day as your mechanical one - Daffynitions joe-ks.com
Lawyers generally know too much of law to have a very clear perception of justice. - Eliza Cook
The four absolutes we all have in our minds: love, justice, evil, and forgiveness. - Ravi Zacharias
To make laws that man cannot, and will not obey, serves to bring all law into contempt. - Elizabeth C Stanton
Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws. - Mayer A. Rothschild
Show me a Jewish boy who doesn't go to medical school and I'll show you a lawyer. - Milton Berle
Divorce, from the Latin word meaning to rip out a man’s genitals through his wallet. - Robin Williams
My husband and I had our best sex during our divorce. It was like cheating on our lawyers. - Priscilla Lopez
Do not judge me by my successes, judge me by how many times I fell down and got back up again. - Nelson Mandela
You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him. - Malcolm S Forbes
It happens to be against two laws: God's and man's. I'm booking her on the second. - Cornell Wilde
A mother's love for her child is like nothing else in the world. It knows no law, no pity. - Agatha Christie
We lawyers learn to study the faces of our witnesses, to form quick judgments, and to act upon them. - Lyman Abbott
When I was born my mother was terribly disappointed. Not that she wanted a girl - she wanted a divorce. - Woody Allen
It might be pardonable to refuse to defend some men, but to defend them negligently is nothing short of criminal. - Marcus Tullius Cicero
If you want to kill an idea without being identified as the assassin, suggest that the legal department take a look at it. - Scott Adams
Men became scientific because they expected law in nature and they expected law in nature because they believed in a lawgiver. - Ravi Zacharias
If we judge ourselves only by our aspirations and everyone else only their conduct we shall soon reach a very false conclusion. - Calvin Coolidge
Justice, sir, is the great interest of man on earth. It is the ligament which holds civilized beings and civilized nations together. - Daniel Webster
Judge: 1. A law student who marks his own examination papers; 2. A lawyer who once knew a politician; 3. A man in a trying position. - Daffynitions joe-ks.com
There must be some honest lawyers at the New York bar, and some impartial judges on the New York bench, but I should not like to be set to find them. - Lyman Abbott
see also
Legal Section
Justice Is Blind - Part 2
Gun Laws
Legal Assistance For All
Memorial Service for Ed Schellenberg
Surrey Six Trial - Word Search Puzzle
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